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CessnaPilotBarry

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05-23-2018 07:28 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question kitchen ceiling paint sander popcorn removal

Hi all!

Longtime Lumberjocks participant sneaking over the border…

I have a popcorn ceiling that I’d like to remove as part of a remodel. It has been painted with oil-based paint, so it cannot be removed using the standard “wet and scrape” technique. There is some cracking and peeling starting to show due to the old paint. I live in Connecticut, USA, where dependable skilled labor is usually expensive. This is an asbestos-free ceiling, installed in 1991.

I’m looking for pros and cons, and “what you might do” around each of the following techniques:

- Reskin the entire ceiling with new 3/8” drywall. There are only three penetrations, two lights and a smoke detector. I’m leaning towards this.

- Dry sanding the popcorn using my random orbit sander, coarse paper, and my drywall bag equipped Shop Vac. I would imagine that the celing might need a skim coat after sanding.

- None of the above…

I would do the sanding and painting myself, and hire a pro to install new ceiling DW or skimcoat the old.

Thoughts?

Thanks!
Barry



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rrdesigns

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02-17-2011 05:50 PM

I would sand the ceiling with a pole mounted sanding block using drywall sanding sheets which clog less than regular sandpaper, then hand trowel a texture over whatever remains. Follow up with primer and paint. If you place new drywall over it, you then have to tape and bed the joints at the seams and walls which means you also have to repaint the walls in addition to still needing a good looking finish on the ceiling.

-- Beth, Oklahoma, Rambling Road Designs

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CessnaPilotBarry

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02-17-2011 08:05 PM

Thanks, Beth.

I have screens for the vacuum attached sander. I should have mentioned that this is an occupied home, I’ve sanded drywall before, I don’t want any texture, other than a typical clean and smooth drywall texture, and I know I have to tape and mud the drywall.

I’m just thinking the process of taping, mudding, and sanding the joints on new drywall will be a lot cleaner and faster than trying to get the exsiting ceiling smooth, even with the vac running.

I want to hire a pro to skimcoat or install the drywall simply because I don’t want to do that part myself. I’d rather work wood, install flooring, install counters, etc… ;^)

Other than standard drywall finishing work and losing a 1/2” or so of ceiling height, can you see a downside to the second layer of sheetrock?

Thanks again for taking the time to reply.

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rrdesigns

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02-18-2011 04:10 AM

There are only two downsides to hanging a second layer of rock. The first is, depending on how the lights and smoke detector are mounted, extending these electrical boxes to meet the new ceiling. This is minor and easily done using box extensions. The other downside is the seam created where the sheetrock meets the walls. This crease is usually mudded with paper tape folded at the seam creating the need to match whatever texture is currently on the wall and repainting. Another way is to caulk this seam. This can often be done without have to paint the walls. This is easier if the walls and ceiling are both white. If the walls are a different color, you have to be a little more careful.

-- Beth, Oklahoma, Rambling Road Designs

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CessnaPilotBarry

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02-18-2011 07:03 PM

Thanks, Beth!

I hadn’t thought about the box extensions, that’s a good point. I’m familiar with them from wainscotting and deep baseboard installs.

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Grandpa

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07-23-2011 12:02 AM

I agree with Beth. If you can do this without adding the new drywall I think it will be better in the long haul. I see problems getting the new wallboard to lay flat on the ceiling and the nails or screw not pulling through. This will be an undertaking anyway you do it.

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CessnaPilotBarry

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07-23-2011 01:58 AM

We hung new rock 3 months ago, it worked out great.

Thanks!

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Grandpa

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07-23-2011 05:17 AM

Good. I always like a success story!

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I think Beth gave you great advice! I’m glad it worked out :)

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