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Topic by VerteramoFurniture7 posted 09-14-2010 07:53 PM 10049 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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VerteramoFurniture7

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09-14-2010 07:53 PM

Topic tags/keywords: electrical christmas lights

Hello all,

I’m from lumberjocks but love reading homerefurbers also.
Last year my fiance and I picked up a rodiron chandeler that holds 6 wine bottles upsides down. Out plan was to get the christmas string lights and put them in the bottles.

My question is, can I hardwire the christmas string lights into a round electric fan celling box I want to put into my celling. I also got the ceiling canopy kit that is the round cover with the hook in the center and the wire coming through the hook.

Any ideas on how to do this safetly would be great.

Thanks

Marcus



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Dan Lyke

338 posts in 3730 days

09-14-2010 11:45 PM

I can’t speak to the potential code issues of clipping off the plug and hard-wiring the lights into the circuit. And I am not an electrician.

However, some basics that I wish I could retroactively apply with a rather heavy cluestick to the people who did some ad-hoc wiring in my house:

  1. All junctions between wires should be done with wire nuts inside of electrical boxes.
  2. All metal boxes (and I like metal boxes!) should be grounded, the screw that attaches the ground wire must not be part of the structure that supports the box, it should be a special separate screw painted green (you can get a box of ‘em).
  3. The Code Check electrical book has a bit on sizing boxes, and the Rex Cauldwell book has a bit on sizing boxes, but when in doubt: use a bigger box, and leave enough tail inside that box that you can rework things in the future.
  4. If you think you have a reason to use electrical tape, you should rethink how you’re making your junction.

Those are the things that immediately scream “safety hazard!”.

-- Dan Lyke, Petaluma California, http://www.flutterby.net/

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UnionLabel

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09-20-2010 04:04 PM

Marcus, You need to pay attention to several things with your chandelier project. Make sure the fixture is properly grounded, Use epoxies for cement, make sure nothing pinches the wiring against the metal frame work and keep the wiring as simple as possible. A fan box is fine as long as the box and rafter bar exceed the weight limit of the chandelier, number of pounds it will hold. I prefer the hex bar holder that you tighten turning the bar with a wrench over the strap type hanger.

http://www.lampsplus.com/Products/Expandable-Chandelier-Ceiling-Fan-Brace__82303.html

This item should fit your purpose. The wiring you have on Christmas lights may or may not be adequate. They were rated to be one thing, Christmas lights. Contact a lamp supply store for the proper sockets and wiring.

-- Methods are many,Principles are few.Methods change often,Principles never do.

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VerteramoFurniture7

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09-20-2010 05:39 PM

Thanks Union Label,

what did you mean by grounded? running a ground wire from the box to the chandeler? The chandeler is a rod iron piece that holds 5 wine bottles in it. The string of lights would be in the bottles. I will try to get pics of it up tonight for you to see.

this weekend I put in the box. I used a new construction box nailed to the ceiling joist, since I have the floor up in the attic and could get to it. The rod iron chandeler only holds five bottles so I dont think is should be a problem.
I got a cover for the box that has the hook on it with the hole in the hook for the wire to come through. I was planning on running the cut off xmas light wires through the hole and hard wire them.
I just came up with another option. let me know what way you think is better. I could put an exstenion cord female end on the wire in the box and just run the cord of the lights into the box and plug it in.

What lights would you recommend I use? I want the small mini bulbs so I can fit them in the bottles and they twinkle.

Thanks

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