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Topic by WhoMe posted 09-08-2009 06:52 PM 20947 views 0 times favorited 24 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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WhoMe

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09-08-2009 06:52 PM

After many years of the same old fireplace, the DW and I have decided to have me refurbish/reface the fireplace. As can be seen by the picture,
Original Fireplace
it is currently in the used brick style and needs an update to match the rest of the revamped livingroom. The house was built in 1954 and the brick is not just a facade but full thickness. We like the look of stacked stone and I have started to do some early research on what is needed to accomplish this. I did a quick look on this website but there were not many fireplace projects.
Does anyone have any suggestions or possible links showing where people have put a new stone type surface over an existing brick fireplace? I do have concerns with earthquake safely doing the new surface such that it will adhere well to the existing surface.

Thanks for any advice.



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Samyer

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09-08-2009 08:46 PM

I did a stone veneer (ashlar sandstone) once on a cement block wall but I don’t have any pictures. What I would recommend however is to use metal tie strips to secure the stone wall to the brick.

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09-09-2009 10:13 PM

I think you should be able to leave the existing brick in place, but you need to anchor the mesh well in place, maybe use hilti or drill and screw, next is the scratch and brown coat. Finish off with either a full brick or a brick veneer. We used real river rock from our beach.

sorry, the picture is not the best, i took it with my phone.

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09-10-2009 04:08 AM

With the fireplace I re-did, it took me about 2 seconds to determine that I was better off tearing it all down (the construction was not the greatest, and by just pulling on the bricks after I removed the mantel, everything came down).

That being said, if you put veneer over existing stone work, everything said above would work. As I write this, I remember watching a DIY program that did that (with stacked stone). I’m sure they would give some hints too.

Good luck, can’t wait to see the results.

-- No matter how many times I measure, I always forget the dimensions before I cut.

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WhoMe

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09-10-2009 07:16 PM

Thanks for all the helpful hints. Since the brick appears to be part of the structure of the fireplace, tearing it down is out of the question. PaBull, Billy, the anchored mesh is what I was thinking too. I think I remember an old TV show where they did that. I will have to do some more searching.
As for the Stacked stone, it will be a veneer. We saw some examples at a local tile place and they were about 1 – 1 1/2 inches thick and we had a choice of 4 or 5 colors. And I will be doing matching slate on the bottom/floor portion. We had thought about a mantle but I think we will pass on that. The wife actually wants to put a large LCD above the fireplace and rearrange the living room furniture. If that actually comes to fruition, I will be putting some real steel sub structure in place before doing the stacked stone.
PaBull, that is a very nice fireplace.

Thanks again for the helpful hints. And, I will post a finished shot when we get around to doing this.

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PaBull

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09-10-2009 08:36 PM

If there is the smallest chance of putting a tv up in that area, be sure to put a 1” conduit in before you cover it up for your wiring. You might have to chip it out of the existing wall.

Good luck.

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WhoMe

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09-11-2009 06:12 PM

PaBull, thanks on the conduit suggestion. Much better than wires hanging out all over the place.

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PaBull

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09-11-2009 06:39 PM

BTW check how big those plugs are for all that fancy wiring, you might need an 1” or bigger.

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Catspaw

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09-16-2009 02:13 AM

Chances are the brick is a veneer….(meaning it is what would be considered full thickness…but is still a veneer…and not the weanie 3/8” thick glue on crap at the DIY store) and not structural. It would take ALOT of bricks to make that. You can pull a couple (knowing it will be covered) to see what’s underneath.

Invariably, there would be block making up the sub-structure. Then the veneer is applied on the face.

Personally, I would remove the brick. One thing about resurfacing it is that you change the plane of the surfaces (depending on how thick the overlay is you’re using.) You will have to deal with that when the veneer meets the old firebox. It might be just fine with the firebox setting deeper in the structure.

Guess it depends on how motivated you are. I always like to start fresh and not cover things up (it makes me sick to see some yahoo putting vinyl siding over old clapboard siding. It’s just cheap, profit motivated, crap.)

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01-10-2010 06:18 PM

My fireplace was very similar to yours, with the addition of the brick running along the entire wall to the right of the fireplace, about 10 feet. The brick was a full 4 inches thick. Behind the brick above the fireplace was a 2×4 stud wall. All the face brick was removed, and 3cm granite was attached to the fireplace brick with mortar. The Granite is in 3 pieces, with the top piece resting on the sides.Fireplace

I built a small support structure for the hearth with mortar and the removed brick, and built a wood frame at the perimeter to support it. The hearth is attached with mortar at the fireplace, and silicone at the perimeter.

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I’m new to this website and actually happened upon it while looking at various fireplaces online to get some ideas about updating an existing brick fireplace. The wood on the above fireplace with the black granite is absolutely beautiful. I’m thinking that it’s burlwood, but does anybody know for sure what type of wood it is? Also, what color/type of stain and finish would have been used to bring out this wood’s natural beauty? Thank you in advance for your time…

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