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Exterior Fix-its #2: Storm Door's Installed

Blog entry by Scott Hildenbrand posted 10-27-2008 07:35 PM 10080 reads 0 times favorited 16 comments Add to Favorites Watch
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Finally got to doing more with the front door this weekend and got the storm door installed. It’s a really nice Pella 8500 Roll Screen in Cranberry with Oil Rubbed Bronze hardware.

The day before the install I patched the rotted sections of the door jamb, which I’d dug out much earlier to solid wood.. I used the fiberglass resin + sawdust method, followed by autobody filler. It worked GREAT and is as solid as a patch that ever was. Plus I never have to worry about it rotting out or breaking down.

Sadly, the paint (second try) I had Lowes match to the door is badly off as seen with the door up. I’m going to take a cut piece of the door frame to them and try AGAIN to get the paint match right. That, or I’ll go to Sherwin Williams.

The only thing left is to install the PVC brick molding around the door which I’ve got sitting to the side.

I’ll be pulling the front door and stripping it down this weekend. I’m torn however as to what finish to use.. I’ll be using a cranberry paint to match the storm door on the outside, but I’d love to do a stained polly finish on the inside.

Any advice on finishing?

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b



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posted 10-28-2008 12:37 AM

Scott, you should be able to get the color chip from Pella. Lowe’s is a Pella distributor, so you might find the color right in the store.(we did our whole house with Pella)

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posted 10-28-2008 02:55 AM

Yes… I SHOULD be able to walk into Lowes and say, “hey, I need this paint to match Pella Cranberry” and they SHOULD be able to pull up the #’s on hand to blend it perfectly. But, not at my Lowes… They couldn’t even match it off a Pella color chip (which took FOREVER and quite a bit of griping to have someone find).

So you did all Pella.. Any opinions on their Thermastar replacement windows? I’m kicking around the idea in my head pretty hard about replacing the windows in the home. It’s a brick house, which complicates matters.. My understanding is that it’s best to just use the drop in replacements that use the existing frames?

Anyway, what do you think of the quality.. Oddly enough, I think the Thermastar feel a little cheap and liked the “feel” of the Betterbilt(?) better.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

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posted 10-28-2008 04:29 PM

Our windows were all new installation. I do not know anything about replacement windows.

We painted our complete house with Lowes Valspar paint, and good matches from them. They offer small $3 sample cans and they can match the paint for you in these cans.

We just got 3 new Lowe’s in the past 5 years, i like them a lot better than HomeDepot.

I am sorry about your experience with Lowe’s.

Can I help you with getting a paint match done here at Lowe’s to the Pella Cranberry, and give you the formula and have them in Kentucky try the California formula?

I will be gone for a week leaving Friday, so let me know soon.

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posted 10-28-2008 06:54 PM

PaBull, that’d be great if they have it on hand or could match it.. All that’s needed is the #s for the mix. It’d be greatly appreciated, for sure!

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

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posted 10-29-2008 08:08 AM

Scott, I am running out of time (leaving for a trip to Oahu with my wife for a week) can it wait till after the 6th?

Thanks.
Bull

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posted 10-29-2008 09:21 PM

Don’t worry about it, Bull… Ended up fighting with them for an hour on getting the paint mixed right. On the third try I think they got it. Apparently the tint they needed wasn’t an option on gloss? So I had to get semi gloss, which should be fine.. Else I’ll just wax the door and buff it out to bring out more shine.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

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posted 10-29-2008 10:09 PM

Thanks, Scott, i’ll see you when I come back.

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posted 10-29-2008 11:24 PM

Thank you for the offer… Look forward to seeing updates on your place when you get back and get busy.. ;)

Tried the paint out and it’s almost 100%.. Like, 97-98% right, so it’s good to go. Besides, I’m tired.. It’s taken 5 quarts to get the color right.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

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posted 10-11-2009 06:33 PM

I realize this was a year ago..but I am wondering what you did so that Lowe’s finally got it right? I think I am out for my third try! :o(

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posted 10-11-2009 08:07 PM

I kept complaining… Took an offcut back to them and didn’t leave until it was close enough that I was happy.. It’s STILL not 100%, but it’s close enough to suit me.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

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posted 10-11-2009 08:16 PM

Thanks for your response Scott! UGH! I hate this! it is enough we are painting around the bad weather without this hassle!!!

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posted 10-11-2009 08:28 PM

No problems.. It’s a pain in the butt for sure.. If you’ve got the same door color I can give you the color code from the can.. It’s NOT perfect, but can get you closer.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

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posted 10-11-2009 09:13 PM

hey! that would be great!!!! 98% is way closer than I am now! thanks!

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posted 10-12-2009 01:55 AM

Sorry for not REing till now.. Was busy today..

Anyway, it’s a little darker and more brownish then the door, but because it’s behind the storm door it just makes it look more set back. Might be worth a shot?

Valspar ultra, Magenta Base
101-27 104-1Y2 116-24

A hair lighter on the rest and a smidge darker on the red might just level everything out to that cranberry color.

Hope it helps.

-- Planting Daylilies in Kentucky, zone 6b

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posted 10-12-2009 02:47 AM

thanks Scott. the first one they mixed was off the Pella chip and used the magenta base..it was very dark and kinda mulberry looking. the second one was off the Larson chip…using Base4 and is a bit redder but still very dark and brown. Shoot…I am thinking to just go chip shopping!!! ha! or better yet..I hung a berry color drape over the door to get an idea of the effect of a berry door..and even though it was a touch lighter it looked good behind the storm door…and this is a covered porch so I really might need the door to be a bit lighter /brighter?
thanks for your help! will give this recipe a shot!

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posted 11-14-2009 05:18 AM

well..I gave up on Lowe’s. what I kept getting looked more like Mulberry than cranberry! my son in law brought in a paint chip guide for epoxy floor paint from Home Depot and I said “there is my front door!” sure enough..the ‘brick house’ looked just like my Pella storm door! we took the chip to Kelly Moore and they color matched it. I am very pleased!

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